What is "dumping"?

[LeahSugar]

Can someone please explain "dumping" to me... have you had this happen? How common is it??

[pieganjane]

dumping syndrome happens when you eat or drink something that the sleeve does not like, it is an intense and immediate vomiting, diahrrea, sometimes the shakes and feeling faint.

[pieganjane]

Dumping Syndrome: Causes, Symptoms, Foods to Avoid, and Treatments

click this link for more info. I think many of us have had this. I did or do if I eat stuff I shouldn't.

[Grace]

Technically, Jane is spot on. Emotionally, it's your sleeve putting you in time out!

[Its_Me]

I have not experienced dumping with my sleeve so far, I believe it happens more with bypass but of course I could be wrong.

[Lucy61]

I actually had it this past weekend for the first time... its because I ate wrong - apparently obrien hasbrowns with gravy is WAY too many carbs and I crashed - lesson learned I won't be doing that again!

[LeahSugar]

So you basically puke, pooh and then you're done?? It's not something that could cause long-term damage?

[Anissa Christine]

Patients do not experience dumping syndrome with gastric sleeve, which is a condition that occurs when food is passed (“dumped”) too quickly from the stomach into the intestines. Dumping syndrome may cause nausea, vomiting, cramping, diarrhea, dizziness or other stomach-flu-like symptoms and is usually experienced by patients who have undergone gastric bypass surgery.


This is what I was told my my surgeon and several members of his staff.

[pieganjane]

Sorry but your doctor is wrong as many of us on this site can attest to. I heard the same thing pre surgery but what the dr said was that sleevers were less likely to experience dumping syndrome then gastric bypass people. However that is an overly broad and inaccurate statement because many of us have had mild to violent reactions to eating the wrong stuff. As they say "never say never... "

[Grace]

I've always called it sleeve-dumping. It's less common for those with the sleeve to have it but some do. The proof is in the experience, believe me. It's not physiologically the same as rny dumping, for us it's when we have a strong reaction to fatty, sweet or any other food we are sensitive to. Blood sugar goes wacky for a bit, heart starts to pound because we release a lot of adrenaline to allow insulin to flow and counteract whatever just hit that isn't feeling right. I think, and someone will I am certain correct me if I am wrong - that the major physical difference could be said to be this. RNY dumping usually equals loose stools, and sleeve-dumping usually does not - it's more vomiting, sweats and nausea.
You'll know it if you get it. It's rather unmistakeable. And like I said, really, it's your sleeve saying - Stop eating that!
And to answer your question about perm damage. None that I know of, but if you do react to a food it would be a good idea not to push it to go down again for a while.

I just wanted to add - the sleeve is still relatively new as surgeries and medical knowledge/experience goes. Those of us on the forefront of this are really making up the database for future sleevers as we go along. It may be that some surgeons have never seen or been told about dumping by their patients, or they are calling it something else like an insulin reaction. But I just don't believe there are any absolutes on this. I had a bariatric "center of excellence" (yeah, don't get me started) and the one thing I did like is they came out and said "We don't know if you will dump. Some do, some don't, we don't know why". The sleeve experience is in some way different for each of us and entering text on a forum can sometimes not be interpreted the same by any two people. So if you see one person say, nope, no dumping and others say, yes, there is. Then they are most likely both right for the reasons they are thinking of. just saying.

[catheryn]

Sorry your doctor is very wrong, I had sleeve on 2-14-13 and eat a mash p very very small amount and I will and do throwup when my stomach doesn't like it ,so yes you can have the dumping.

[Anissa Christine]

No offense meant to anyone but I tend to go with the person who holds the medical degree.

Also, while it may be a condition that is similar to dumping, our organs are no bypassed....at least mine were not...so dumping was originally termed for those who have had bypass.

I guess another reason is I have never (yes, never) had this happen to me...but then again I don't eat anything I should not be eating.

We can just agree to disagree. As always I respect other's views even if they differ from my own!

[pieganjane]

What Grace said.

[libbyb]

Surgeons know how to perform the surgery, well done. But they don't have first hand experience of living with it. I would listen to someone who has had the operation.

[Truebody]

From my research dumping is a term to address a phenomenon experienced by Bypass recipients when they consume something too high in sugar. It goes straight on through and is dumped into the intestine too quickly for the body to process. The result is the poort person spends the rest of the day on the toilet. The rest of the day. Apparently very very nasty and an effective deterrent for sugar laden foods.

So for the sleeve - again from research, there is a reaction that some have after surgery, when something is consumed that doesn't agree with the revised tummy, but rather than purely sugar. It can be brought on by anything that individual is particularly sensitive to and will not be the same for the next person. It's more personal. The trick it would seem is trial and error, and while the term 'dumping' fits very well to how that episode feels, it's apparently a reaction that is more broad based rather than just sugar.

Basically you are eating something that doesn't agree with you. Just like feeding a baby - some stuff stays down, some comes up. Some goes through without too much fuss, some causes a real deal of fuss.

Like what Grace said.