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    Default I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    I have maintained at 106 lbs for the last 8 months,that was my lowest weight.
    I really could do with a couple of pounds more, I am really skinny.
    I just didn't want to go and eat things I should not eat, just for the sake of gaining, I trusted my body and the process.
    I always read that at some point I will gain a couple of pounds, this was just rock bottom and that weight does not stay.

    Having said that...
    I gained a couple of pounds over the last 6 weeks.
    Nothing dramatic, I went from 106 to now 109.
    But the point is, I didn't make any changes in my eating habits.
    I still make healthy choices, get my proteins in, watch my fluid intake, getting my exercise, everything stayed the same.
    I am eating between 1400 and 1500 calories every day.
    And I stil track and weigh my foods.

    The truth is: this really freaks me out completely.
    I have to use all my mental strength to not go eat less, or diet again.
    In my head I know I need to gain those pounds, but it is the ease, with which this happens.
    Not doing anything strange and then still gain, that is exactly what happened every time I had been on some sort of diet pre op.

    Will this gaining weight stop at some point?
    I feel very insecure right now...
    Like I said, it may be silly, but it is the way I feel.
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Exact same situation for me. I maintained at 105 for about a year and a half. That put me in the underweight category. While it freaked me out being so thin, it also freaked me out when the weight gain started without changing my eating habits. From April until August 2017 I had a steady gain leaving me about 12 pounds heavier. The gain then stopped, and I've not been able to get my weight lower since. I now maintain between 114 and 117 - a perfectly healthy weight for me. I'm fine with this weight. I'm just scared of what if that happens again. I changed nothing for that to happen the first time. God forbid I do eventually have to give up my junk food.
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    Day of surgery 11/4/14: 5'4" 213lbs
    1 month: 187
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    3 months: 155
    4 months: 148
    5 months: 142
    6 months: 136
    7 months: 131
    8 months: 125
    9 months: 120
    10 months: 114
    11 months: 111
    1 year: 109
    1.5 years: 105
    2 years: 108
    2.5 years: 102
    3 years: 113
    4 years: 115


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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Quote Originally Posted by DutchSleeve View Post
    I have maintained at 106 lbs for the last 8 months,that was my lowest weight.
    I really could do with a couple of pounds more, I am really skinny.
    I just didn't want to go and eat things I should not eat, just for the sake of gaining, I trusted my body and the process.
    I always read that at some point I will gain a couple of pounds, this was just rock bottom and that weight does not stay.

    Having said that...
    I gained a couple of pounds over the last 6 weeks.
    Nothing dramatic, I went from 106 to now 109.
    But the point is, I didn't make any changes in my eating habits.
    I still make healthy choices, get my proteins in, watch my fluid intake, getting my exercise, everything stayed the same.
    I am eating between 1400 and 1500 calories every day.
    And I stil track and weigh my foods.

    The truth is: this really freaks me out completely.
    I have to use all my mental strength to not go eat less, or diet again.
    In my head I know I need to gain those pounds, but it is the ease, with which this happens.
    Not doing anything strange and then still gain, that is exactly what happened every time I had been on some sort of diet pre op.

    Will this gaining weight stop at some point?
    I feel very insecure right now...
    Like I said, it may be silly, but it is the way I feel.
    Mine did that at 13 months -- I went down to 122, which was mostly when I had the toad froth, then about 126. Now I stay between 126-130 eating mostly the same stuff every day. It did/does freak me out. But my PCP says its perfect for me, and my family says my face does not look so haunted.
    [I]HW: 240 lbs CW: 205 lbs: SW: 199 lbs GW: 130 lbs

    1 MO = 167.0 2 MO = 156.4
    3 MO = 148.4 4 MO = 140.6
    5 MO = 136.0 6 MO = 130.0 (GOAL)
    1 YR = 122.0 18 MO = 129.0

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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Thanks so much Katrina, for your response!
    In my mind I know that 114 would be perfect for me, I am not tall, 5'4"
    And it is not even the thought of gaining those pounds in a reasonable amount of time, but the thought of not stopping with that regain is terrifying for me.
    I see in your stats it took you 1,5 year to gain those pounds, that I can live with, would that happen to me.
    As long as it does stop there!
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Thank you Annie!
    Haunted...
    That 114 would suit me very well, I have been that weight for years, before I got pregnant.
    I've never seen that weight again though.
    I am 25 months out now, so I knew this was coming, but now it is here and I want to diet.
    I want to buy skim yoghurt and cottage cheese and eat low calorie food...
    And that is just what I shouldn't do...
    I know I have to stuck to my normal routine, because that has served me well, up to now.
    But I am struggling...
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    I've always heard that, naturally, your body will do whatever it needs to to reach homeostasis...it's baseline level. Maybe that's what happened here...your body recognized it was a little bit lower than it needed to be, so "hung on" to more calories (even though your intake/diet didn't change) to get those few pounds pack.

    Could be true...could be hack. Who knows. I think it's great that you're cognizant of changes and keeping an eye on things. Other than that, I sure wish I had more to say to support!



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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Thank you, it is so good of you to mention that homeostasis!
    That is absolutely right, that is what the body needs and wants.
    I just don't trust my body right now, although it did its job so well.
    That maintenance stuff is the hardest part of the whole procedure, in my opinion.
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    I am so jealous of you skinny people, I have the opposite problem. I've gained 9 pounds since summer, and I haven't changed my eating. I did mess up over the holidays, but got back on track quickly. All I can think of is I'm not quite as active as I was in the summer, due mainly to a horrible winter. But I still exercise, will be taking our third ski trip in a few weeks. Heck, yesterday I hiked 5 miles in the woods on ice (I do have those Costco thingys that attach to the bottom of your boots for extra traction) and it was about 10 degrees and windy. So it's not like I'm not trying. I was the only person crazy enough to be out in that weather as the only footprints I saw were animals.

    Every day I'm either up or down one pound. I feel stuck. I'm even tracking what I'm eating, something I have never done before.



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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    * sigh*
    Yes, I hear you.
    So frustrating!
    But with you it can't be a matter of not exercising enough, I'm sure.
    It is getting harder and harder to loose those extra pounds after a couple of years.
    I hear the same problem with other women our age, who are as far out as you.
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    It sounds absolutely true that our bodies just need to find that homeostasis, however, it is awfully hard to trust our bodies knowing that they let us get obese before. As patient and loving as my husband is, I know he probably wants to strangle me sometimes when I reach my acceptable high. I'm like alright here we go, this is where I gain it all back. I'm always afraid that's coming. Not that I think I'm too big now, just that maybe it won't stop when I gain. But it does stop, and it goes back down.

    Sharon, STOP! You have absolutely nothing to be jealous of. You are living a beautiful life full of healthy activities, AND you look amazing. I can barely push a lawn mower. I almost died mowing the lawn one time last summer when my husband broke his leg. I bought a riding mower that day! I bet you are strong enough to mow all the lawns. It's weird because I think I look like I have a lot of muscle, but my muscles suck butt.
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    1 month: 187
    2 months: 171
    3 months: 155
    4 months: 148
    5 months: 142
    6 months: 136
    7 months: 131
    8 months: 125
    9 months: 120
    10 months: 114
    11 months: 111
    1 year: 109
    1.5 years: 105
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrina View Post
    It sounds absolutely true that our bodies just need to find that homeostasis, however, it is awfully hard to trust our bodies knowing that they let us get obese before. As patient and loving as my husband is, I know he probably wants to strangle me sometimes when I reach my acceptable high. I'm like alright here we go, this is where I gain it all back. I'm always afraid that's coming. Not that I think I'm too big now, just that maybe it won't stop when I gain. But it does stop, and it goes back down.
    Exactly that!
    It is so hard for me not to get into that diet mode.
    I ask myself "what can happen, when you would gain those pounds?".
    I definitely would look better (not haunted anymore ).
    Fortunately I feel good and energetic.
    Just the fear of not being able to stop gaining.
    Not rational, I know, but nevertheless.

    Okay, I'll kick myself in the butt, and keep on doing what I am doing now.
    I eat healthy, get all my protein, veggies and fruit in and I drink enough.
    I will continue with my 1400-1500 cals per day, even though I am scared...
    I will keep you all posted, because I really need the support right now.

    I planned my day, like I do every day and MFP tells me I have 1404 cals until bedtime.
    So far, so good.

    I just changed my target weight and my actual weight.
    We'll see, what happens, que sera,sera.
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    Y'all, this post was really helpful. I've been feeling "fat" at what is actually a good weight for me. I'm 5'4" (although used to be 5'5"). I'm 66. I'm not particularly active, but do ride a stationary bicycle and walk. I have done/could do more exercise, but may not.

    That said, I realize I am obsessing once again about a number. Number of calories. Number of my weight. And I was very worried my body was wanting to find fatness again. But I don't think that's true.

    My calories are probably 1200 give or take a couple, although I track pretty accurately. I wonder if winter time or the longer days have anything to do with it?

    sraebaer, the horrible winter aside, you are one of the most active people I know of any age, or weight.. Perhaps since you've challenged yourself so much you have more muscle weight through the upper thighs and calves, which are large muscles to beginwith.

    DutchSleeve,I laughed at the "women our age" comment! Down here we say "women of a certain age".

    Katrina, you look great.Pretty sure if DH couldn't mow the grass, I'd get a neighbor kid. Not a huge yard since ours is still wooded, much to our subdivisions despair.

    Thank you all for sharing and for helping us all!
    [I]HW: 240 lbs CW: 205 lbs: SW: 199 lbs GW: 130 lbs

    1 MO = 167.0 2 MO = 156.4
    3 MO = 148.4 4 MO = 140.6
    5 MO = 136.0 6 MO = 130.0 (GOAL)
    1 YR = 122.0 18 MO = 129.0

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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    "Women of a certain age"... I think that's funny... lol

    I think being around 1400 cals is pretty good at 25 months, given the fact I can now eat a lot more than a year ago.
    I think it will be the average amount this far out.
    Sometimes I eat a bit more, sometimes a bit less, but nothing out of the ordinary.
    My restriction works great, I just have to stay away from sugar(s).
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    If this is any help, I was at the highest ever three days ago. Today I'm at the lowest I've been in quite a while at 113.8. I did nothing different and even ate a salami and pepperoni stromboli and had a glass of wine last night. I woke up 2 whole pounds less on the scale. Crazy! I always gain when I eat pizza. Weight is a funny and frustrating thing. I wish I could let go and not focus so much on it, but I'm afraid I'd be one of the ones coming back a year later wondering where it all went wrong.
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    8 months: 125
    9 months: 120
    10 months: 114
    11 months: 111
    1 year: 109
    1.5 years: 105
    2 years: 108
    2.5 years: 102
    3 years: 113
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    Default Re: I know: silly, but it freaks me out...

    OK, contrarian post coming at y'all here ....

    And it's based completely on MY experience -- not y'all's. In other words, your mileage may vary. I'm just stating MY experience after 4.5 years post-op.

    I think this "homeostasis" concept, i.e., "Your body will find the place IT wants to be" and another common WLS concept of "automatic bounceback," i.e., "X years after WLS your body will automatically bounce back with a regain of XX pounds" are both baloney.

    REMINDER: As I said earlier, this is MY opinion based on MY experience.

    I think there are actual physical reasons for weight gain. I don't think weight gain is magical. The reasons for each person's weight gain may not be visible to that person. The gain could be caused by eating more sodium, i.e., water weight; eating more carbs, i.e., water retention; hormonal changes, i.e., water retention and metabolic changes; lots of car and air travel, i.e., water and poop retention; strength-training, i.e., water retention and eventually muscle-building; not weighing your food anymore, i.e., volume and calorie creepage; moving less (even slightly less) than you used to, i.e., burning fewer calories; muscle loss, i.e., lower metabolic rate, etc.

    DutchSleeve, I bet you can figure out what's causing your weight gain. Please don't start thinking your weight gain is in the woo-woo realm. I know you're tracking your input. Not saying you might not benefit from some weight gain. You do seem pretty light to me. But that's because I'm used to what I weigh and how I look -- not saying that's any better than what you weigh, just that it's different.

    Anyway, those are my immediate thoughts on this very interesting thread.

    BTW, Katrina -- you're in a class all by yourself, i.e., I don't know anybody else in the WLS universe whose body responds like yours to junk food. I don't understand at all how you stay so slim eating like you do. It's not at all typical of other WLS patients I know. So anything I said above doesn't apply to you. You're a true outlier.



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