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    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default So Down In Dumps

    I give! I'm so upset I can scream. Was sleeved August 7th and all was ok. Now no restriction. None, nothing, nada!!!!! I just don't get it. Had follow up today and only lost three freaking pounds! Dr. said its only a tool and my weight loss will be slow since I don't have too much left to loose. Heck why he didn't tell me that before taking my money! He said stress can hinder weight loss!!! I didn't wanna hear that.

    My coworker was sleeved and loosing like a mad woman. She doesn't follow doctor's orders and man she is having such success. I do what I'm suppose to do but it is a struggle. I'm trying to stay in my lane and not compare myself to others, but tonight I just had a meltdown. I ate 1/2 bag of chips and crackers to see if I would get sick. Didn't get sick at all and an hour later had dinner. Yes I no I shouldn't ate it, but I wanted to see if my sleeve would reject it. Guess what! I didn't get sick and my sleeve didn't reject it. This sleeve is doing a number on my self esteem.

    Thanks for letting me vent as I'm truly bombed. Failed at lapband now failed at sleeve. I'm scared I made the worse decision of my life.

    If u wanna know the truth, everyone know I had it and now they gonna see a failure.




    Dr. consult: 203 lbs
    Doc's pre-op diet: 194.2


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    Gastric Sleeve Member RehabNurse's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    5 weeks out and you're already declaring failure? It's a self-fulfilling prophecy: you've already declared failure, so you're now doing things to ensure you fail. Don't fall into that trap.

    Did your surgeon not warn you that revisions tend to lose slower than virgin sleeves? Your body's already had the metabolic shock of a prior bariatric surgery, so for some revision folks, their systems treat a second surgery as a one-and-done deal.

    Most of my losses were single-digit (1 to 7 pounds monthly), yet I kept plugging at it and made it to goal. One of our other success stories who posts frequently (Kindle) only lost 17 pounds in the 3 months post-op...that's a whopping 5.7 pounds a month, yet she made it to goal.

    The moral of the story is you cannot compare your speed or rate of loss to noncompliant people who lose rapidly. The noncompliant ones usually regain massively several years out because they never made the sustainable lifestyle changes to maintain lower body weights.


    10/23/14 Initial Consult 200 lb, 5'1 tall
    4/6/15 Highest Wt 225 (yes: 25 lb gain)
    4/20/15 Surgery Wt 218, BMI 41

    1 mo 203.0 -15
    2 mo 190.5 -12.5
    3 mo 184.5 -6
    4 mo 177.0 -7.5
    5 mo 171.0 -6
    6 mo 164.5 -6.5
    7 mo 157.5 -7
    8 mo 152.5 -5
    9 mo 149 -3.5
    10 m 143 -6
    11 m 142 -1
    1 yr 138.5 -3.5
    13 m 133 -5.5
    14 m 128 -5
    15 m 125 -3
    16 m 121 -4
    17 m 120 -1
    18 m 118 -2

    Dec '17: BMI 23.5; consumes 2000+ kcal/day

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Tamera2's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    Quote Originally Posted by RehabNurse View Post
    5 weeks out and you're already declaring failure? It's a self-fulfilling prophecy: you've already declared failure, so you're now doing things to ensure you fail. Don't fall into that trap.

    Did your surgeon not warn you that revisions tend to lose slower than virgin sleeves? Your body's already had the metabolic shock of a prior bariatric surgery, so for some revision folks, their systems treat a second surgery as a one-and-done deal.

    Most of my losses were single-digit (1 to 7 pounds monthly), yet I kept plugging at it and made it to goal. One of our other success stories who posts frequently (Kindle) only lost 17 pounds in the 3 months post-op...that's a whopping 5.7 pounds a month, yet she made it to goal.

    The moral of the story is you cannot compare your speed or rate of loss to noncompliant people who lose rapidly. The noncompliant ones usually regain massively several years out because they never made the sustainable lifestyle changes to maintain lower body weights.
    The Rehab Nurse is 100% correct!!! And your doctor is right it is just a tool!! Why do you continue to sabotage yourself? All your doing is making sure another bariatric surgery fails. Chips and crackers are called slider foods, they go down easy and won't fill you up!!! but will allow the calories to add up. Always start with protein than veggies. That should be much harder to consume large amounts. Exercise is also very important. Need to find things you can do to stay active. Need to work on changing your Brain by reprogramming new thoughts so you don't constantly get so many urges to eat bad foods or over eat.
    You also started at a much lower weight so your going to loose slower than someone thats much heavier regardless of any other factors.You were loosing‼️ Now your working hard to gain with your actions. You need to see how much protein you were consuming and how much non caloric fluids. I bet you will feel full much quicker when you eat some protein. Also make sure yoyr waiting at least 30minutes before drinking or your food will turn to soup and go through your sleeve and you may feel hungery sooner. When i wasn't getting enough protein i either stalled or lost less than when i was. In the beginning i lost a lot than it naturally slowed down but I'm still loosing and it doesn't matter that its in single digits. its still a loss!!! and I feel amazing and I'm doing what I love. I know I will hit goal. Stop getting in your own way!! I strongly recommend you get some help so you stop sabotaging yourself before your weightloss turns to gains. I recommend weighing yourself everyday to make sure your not gaining weight, Should be first thing in the morning. I also urge you to stop comparing yourself to others, your bound to be disappointed. I wish you well with your journey. P.S I love my Tool and I went to counseling for two years before i had the sleeve.
    Highest weight- 288 / Wt at Surgery 268
    1 month 236 -29lbs 2 month 214 -22lbs 3 month 206 -08lbs 4 month 196 -10lbs 5 month 185 -11lbs 6 month 178 -7lbs 7 month 172 -6lbs 9mos -12lbs 156 13mos later wt.144lbs, Wt.138 -150lbs in 15mos

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Lisa73me's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Listen to RehabNurse! She is right! Don't sabotage yourself, be patient! Hang in there!



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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamera2 View Post
    The Rehab Nurse is 100% correct!!! And your doctor is right it is just a tool!! Why do you continue to sabotage yourself? All your doing is making sure another bariatric surgery fails. Chips and crackers are called slider foods, they go down easy and won't fill you up!!! but will allow the calories to add up. Always start with protein than veggies. That should be much harder to consume large amounts. Exercise is also very important. Need to find things you can do to stay active. Need to work on changing your Brain by reprogramming new thoughts so you don't constantly get so many urges to eat bad foods or over eat.
    You also started at a much lower weight so your going to loose slower than someone thats much heavier regardless of any other factors.You were loosing‼️ Now your working hard to gain with your actions. You need to see how much protein you were consuming and how much non caloric fluids. I bet you will feel full much quicker when you eat some protein. Also make sure yoyr waiting at least 30minutes before drinking or your food will turn to soup and go through your sleeve and you may feel hungery sooner. When i wasn't getting enough protein i either stalled or lost less than when i was. In the beginning i lost a lot than it naturally slowed down but I'm still loosing and it doesn't matter that its in single digits. its still a loss!!! and I feel amazing and I'm doing what I love. I know I will hit goal. Stop getting in your own way!! I strongly recommend you get some help so you stop sabotaging yourself before your weightloss turns to gains. I recommend weighing yourself everyday to make sure your not gaining weight, Should be first thing in the morning. I also urge you to stop comparing yourself to others, your bound to be disappointed. I wish you well with your journey. P.S I love my Tool and I went to counseling for two years before i had the sleeve.
    In over 5 years I've never identified any food as a "slider".



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    Gastric Sleeve Member Ann2's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    Slider foods are highly processed foods like cookies, white-flour crackers, chips of all kinds, highly processed white flour breads, pretzels, ice cream. They have very little (if any) fiber in them. They turn into slurry in your stomach and slide easily right down the bottom of your stomach into your intestine, leaving your stomach free to accept more food. That's why they're called "sliders."

    Their inappropriateness for WLS patients (or for anyone who's trying to lose weight) should be obvious. And to a sleever, your sleeve will barely notice these kinds of foods as they pass through.

    You want to challenge your sleeve? Make it tell you, "Stop! You already ate! I don't want anymore!"? Then eat like your doctor said to -- dense protein, fibrous veggies and fibrous fruits. Avoid all the "white food." Avoid all sugar.

    You can do this. So many others have succeeded. You can, too.

    P.S. Look at my monthly weight losses in my sig block below. I didn't lose like a house afire either. Buck up.



    Consult: 235 lbs
    My and doc's preop diet: 216 -19 lbs
    M1 postop 205 -30
    M2 193 -42
    M3 184 -51
    M4 174 -61
    M5 167 -68
    M6 162 -73
    M7 156 -79
    M8 151 -84
    M9 148 -87
    M10 146 -89
    M11 144 -91
    M12 143 -92
    M13 142 -93
    M14 140 -95
    M15 139 -96
    M16 137 -98
    M17 135 -100

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Ann2's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    P.S. Another way you can self-sabotage is to drink your calories -- sodas, alcoholic drinks, sweet tea, Mountain Dew, fancy coffee drinks with flavorings and sugar. Those are empty calories. They'll retard your weight loss badly.



    Consult: 235 lbs
    My and doc's preop diet: 216 -19 lbs
    M1 postop 205 -30
    M2 193 -42
    M3 184 -51
    M4 174 -61
    M5 167 -68
    M6 162 -73
    M7 156 -79
    M8 151 -84
    M9 148 -87
    M10 146 -89
    M11 144 -91
    M12 143 -92
    M13 142 -93
    M14 140 -95
    M15 139 -96
    M16 137 -98
    M17 135 -100

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    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    Thank you NurseRehab for putting things in perspective for me. Sometimes it gets hard and I get really scared because for fear of failing.
    This struggle is real..I think I am going to get counseling.




    Dr. consult: 203 lbs
    Doc's pre-op diet: 194.2


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    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Thanks! I needed wise words of counseling....




    Dr. consult: 203 lbs
    Doc's pre-op diet: 194.2


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    Gastric Sleeve Member MegannsMom's Avatar
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    I can understand the want to "test" your new tool. I'm almost 3 weeks out and I wonder. But, at this point that's all I do. I want to succeed so badly that I refuse to do anything that's going to hinder it. It's definitely learning how to train the head not to be hungry for me. I've only lost 30 pounds and I have about 40 to go before I hit my goal. I see everyone losing tons and I'm just slow and steady. But, I didn't put it on overnight. I'll take a slower loss over gain any day. You can do this! I have faith. You need to have it too!



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    Gastric Sleeve Member Ann2's Avatar
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    PrettyLady -- counseling is a GREAT idea.

    So much of the success of this thing is throwing all the resources you can muster at whatever YOUR issues are. Some people don't need counseling. I did. And I could add counseling to the mix, so I did. (I still see my counselor once a month, over 3 years post-op later.)

    Go for it!




    Consult: 235 lbs
    My and doc's preop diet: 216 -19 lbs
    M1 postop 205 -30
    M2 193 -42
    M3 184 -51
    M4 174 -61
    M5 167 -68
    M6 162 -73
    M7 156 -79
    M8 151 -84
    M9 148 -87
    M10 146 -89
    M11 144 -91
    M12 143 -92
    M13 142 -93
    M14 140 -95
    M15 139 -96
    M16 137 -98
    M17 135 -100

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Christie13's Avatar
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    You have gotten a lot of good advice. I can eat a lot if I allow myself to eat slider foods. No restriction. But give me a piece of meat and the amount I can eat is significantly less. A lot of restriction. And since you are not a virgin WLS patient you will lose slower. You definitely cannot compare yourself to others....especially if this is their first WLS. And stress...don't get me started on the bad things that does to your body. Stay the course, follow the rules, and you will lose. You have to decide if you are worth it. I am thinking yes you are. Don't give up on yourself or your tool. YOU GOT THIS. Now pull up your big girl panties and keep on keeping on!!



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    Gastric Sleeve Member ghost_ryder's Avatar
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    You have lost 10% of your body weight in 36 days. How is that slow? Listen to your doctor, they are right. loss ebbs and flows for seemingly no reason. Just follow the doctors plan and you will be just fine.



    HW - 341 - June 1
    SW - 319 - 8/23 (-22)
    1mn - 286 - Sept 23 (-33) -total 55
    2mn - 274 - Oct 23 (-12) -total 67
    3mn - 263 - Nov 23 (-11) -total 78
    6mn - 238 - Feb 23(-25) - total 103
    9mn - 230 - May 23 (-8) - Total 111
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    Gastric Sleeve Member GigiUSA's Avatar
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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    I can't add anything else to what has already been said but I can tell you that you took a giant step toward better health when you had your sleeve surgery. It is like being born... you go into that operating room by yourself and you come out by yourself. This is YOUR journey. I have seen it over and over here that everyone's sleeve and journey is different. You have to run your own race and do what is right for you to get to your goal. Fight to live your best life, you are SO worth all the effort my dear!!! xoxoxoxoxo



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    Default Re: So Down In Dumps

    Try eating more protein...When I eat slider foods I dont feel restriction but when I eat protein I can only eat two or three bites. The only chips I eat are quest protein chips and those arent really chips they are just crunchy. they have 22 grams of protein and 2 carbs. the only thing in them is protein, psyllium husk and spices. No potato No corn Nothing yummy. those fill you up in two seconds. i stay away from potato chips and crackers.



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