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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    I think that the scariest part is having 80% of your stomach removed. I get to thinking that it can't be right to change your anatomy that way. I mean the stomach is a particular size and shape for a reason. I have no idea what that reason is but if we change it are we going to have to pay consequences? Am I playing God by changing it? If we didn't need a certain size stomach why weren't we born with banana size stomachs.....lol I really think I'm analyzing this to much.



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    Gastric Sleeve Member RehabNurse's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Quote Originally Posted by LKuhns View Post
    If we didn't need a certain size stomach why weren't we born with banana size stomachs.....
    We were all born with the correct-sized stomachs for the way our ancestors and predecessors lived: the feast/famine lifestyle of hunting and gathering. Cavemen would not have survived with banana-shaped stomachs that only held a few ounces of food at a time.

    In prehistoric times, primitive people feasted on whatever they could get their hands on because they never really knew when the next meal would be. They feasted and fasted.

    In 2017 we still have that same three-quart (48-ounce) stomach that can hold three pounds of food. Here's the problem: we no longer have feast/famine lifestyles. Food is abundant, cheap, and easy to obtain. We no longer need to hunt and gather food. Most of us know where our next meal is coming from, whether it is from the supermarket or the fast food joint.

    In other words, we feast all the time because we can. We no longer fast because there are no reasons to.

    There is no reason for anyone to have a three-quart stomach that can stretch to accommodate 48 ounces of food in this day and age, especially for those of us who are prone to obesity.


    10/23/14 Initial Consult 200 lb, 5'1 tall
    4/6/15 Highest Wt 225 (yes: 25 lb gain)
    4/20/15 Surgery Wt 218, BMI 41

    1 mo 203.0 -15
    2 mo 190.5 -12.5
    3 mo 184.5 -6
    4 mo 177.0 -7.5
    5 mo 171.0 -6
    6 mo 164.5 -6.5
    7 mo 157.5 -7
    8 mo 152.5 -5
    9 mo 149 -3.5
    10 m 143 -6
    11 m 142 -1
    1 yr 138.5 -3.5
    13 m 133 -5.5
    14 m 128 -5
    15 m 125 -3
    16 m 121 -4
    17 m 120 -1
    18 m 118 -2

    Dec '17: BMI 23.5; consumes 2000+ kcal/day

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Christie13's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    We are already paying the consequences of changing our anatomy from years of overeating. Now we are just getting a new lease on life and fixing our obesity related diseases. I am grateful for my sleeve and it has been an amazing 6 months. Four more pounds and I will have a normal BMI. I started at 41.8.



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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Yes... you are way over-theologizing and simplifying the surgery when there is no need to. I was going to get all academic, but defer to RehabNurse lol! She said beautifully!!!

    Look up a book by Dr. Duc Vuong, he explains that it is easier to gain weight than to lose it because we are biologically programmed to store food, as RehabNurse mentioned.
    HW: 245lbs (11/15); SW: 226lbs (5/17/16) - Height: 5'6"

    Post-Op Weight:
    M1: 211.3 (-14.7)
    M2: 203 (-8.3)
    M3: 196.5 (-6.5)
    M4: 191.5 (-5)
    M5: 186.3 (-5.2)
    M6: (?)
    M7: (?)
    M8: 179.4 (-6.9)
    M9: 177.1 (-2.3)
    M10: 174 (-3.1)
    M11: 171.5 (-2.5)
    M12: 171 (-.5)
    Y1.1: 170 (-1)

    "Today is another day to get it right!"






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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    That makes sense to me. Thanks



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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Oh my goodness, that makes sense too. We are programed to be able to store food, which we don't need to do anymore. Got it!



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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Your right, and I am glad we have a second chance to fix it. You have done wonderful with your journey. I hope I can be as successful. Thanks.



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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    So true!



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    Gastric Sleeve Member LKuhns's Avatar
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. I am tired of using all of my three-quart stomach. I don't want one that big. I do have a problem of sometimes eating until I am too full. It will be nice to have a stomach that lets me know I've had enough much sooner. This is a great tool that will help me battle this disease.



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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    It is so cool to get a second chance at life, and that came from my new stomach. It's amazing when I think of what I used to eat, maybe half a large pizza. Now I can eat one piece of a small and be totally satisfied, with no room for more.

    Not that I eat pizza very often. Last night it was ahi tuna at a restaurant on top of this delicious fancy slaw, off the appetizer menu. YUM! At this restaurant my former choice of meal was typically the chicken tenders and fries.

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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    It is a good topic, especially for those waiting for surgery date. The thought has crossed my mind a time or two as well. Great feedback!



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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Rehabnurse's response was perfect. I had a couple moments this weekend that I wanted to gorge myself because of stress. Pre op I would have and then hated myself. Post op it was all in the head and I knew I wouldn't be able to stuff my face so I calmed down and it passed. This tool is amazing!!!!



    Original Weight - 479
    Day of Surgery - 459
    Month 1 - 438
    Month 2 - 418
    Month 3 - 409
    Month 6 - 389

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    Gastric Sleeve Member RehabNurse's Avatar
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dewdrop View Post
    Well, I guess I was wrong in saying you can stretch your stomach back out again. I just got back from talking to my doctor and he said the stomach doesn't stretch back out again. It can't, even after years. My mistake!
    While the stomach will not ever stretch back to its original 3-quart capacity, do not be fooled. The sleeved stomach definitely relaxes and stretches over time. At two months out I could eat no more than about 3 ounces of food. Now I'm 2 years out and can comfortably accommodate about 8 to 9 ounces of food, so my capacity has tripled.

    In one of his Youtube videos, bariatric surgeon Dr. Matthew Weiner explains that the typical sleever can eat two-thirds of a plate of food at three to five years out. This relaxation and stretching of the stomach is normal. The postsurgical tightness that allows people to feel stuffed with a few small bites of food does not last forever.

    Most (but not all) sleeve veterans will tell you that their stomach's capacity has increased since those early days.


    10/23/14 Initial Consult 200 lb, 5'1 tall
    4/6/15 Highest Wt 225 (yes: 25 lb gain)
    4/20/15 Surgery Wt 218, BMI 41

    1 mo 203.0 -15
    2 mo 190.5 -12.5
    3 mo 184.5 -6
    4 mo 177.0 -7.5
    5 mo 171.0 -6
    6 mo 164.5 -6.5
    7 mo 157.5 -7
    8 mo 152.5 -5
    9 mo 149 -3.5
    10 m 143 -6
    11 m 142 -1
    1 yr 138.5 -3.5
    13 m 133 -5.5
    14 m 128 -5
    15 m 125 -3
    16 m 121 -4
    17 m 120 -1
    18 m 118 -2

    Dec '17: BMI 23.5; consumes 2000+ kcal/day

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Pam G's Avatar
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    you will still be able to overeat after the sleeve. Gotta get a grip on that, or you'll gain weight back.


    Quote Originally Posted by LKuhns View Post
    Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. I am tired of using all of my three-quart stomach. I don't want one that big. I do have a problem of sometimes eating until I am too full. It will be nice to have a stomach that lets me know I've had enough much sooner. This is a great tool that will help me battle this disease.




    HW: 275
    PreOp: 268 5/12/16

    SW: 258. 5/27/2016
    10 w: 225. Goal 1
    12 w: 222.
    14 w: 216.
    4 m: 215
    5 m: 205
    22: 199.4 10/30 Goal 2
    24: 196
    6 mo: 191
    7 m: 193
    8 m: 184
    9 m: 180 2/3/17. Goal 3
    10 m: 179
    11 m: 171
    48: 170
    1 yr: 166.6. 5/27/17
    13 m: 165.8
    5 y,10 m: 215
    7 yrs: 230


    Revised Goal : 200
    "Bonus" Goal: 180

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Ann2's Avatar
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    Default Re: I think the thing that scares me the most is...

    What Rehab Nurse said. Always!

    Dewdrop, keep asking questions, keep reading. One day you'll know it all.

    LKuhns, yes, WLS is a pretty extreme thing to do, and cutting out 80% of our stomachs is a significantly strange thing to get used to. One concept you'll come to appreciate is that, as the saying goes, "They operate on your stomach, not on your brain." The implication of that smart-aleck remark is that anyone determined to overeat post-op can figure out how to do it. Fifty percent of WLS patients gain back more than half of the weight they lost. A few even gain it all back -- by (as Dewdrop's doc said) grazing on slider foods, drinking liquids with meals and eating high-fat, high-carb, high-sugar foods, drinking their calories, and sitting around on their asses all day long.

    Many patients who are very successful long-term started early on working with a therapist to learn how to deal differently and better with life's ongoing stresses (instead of using food to soothe their discomforts). They also figure out how they can move it, move it, move it post-op instead of leading sedentary lives like most of us did pre-op. Naturally, when you weigh 100 pounds less than you once did, moving it is a helluva lot easier. Some of us actuallly learn to enjoy exercise, even crave it.

    The good news is you don't have to make all these changes at one time. All you ever have to do in a given day is what you're supposed to do that day. Tomorrow, you do what you need to do then. That's how new lifestyles are forged and lived -- one day at a time.

    Very best to you!



    Consult: 235 lbs
    My and doc's preop diet: 216 -19 lbs
    M1 postop 205 -30
    M2 193 -42
    M3 184 -51
    M4 174 -61
    M5 167 -68
    M6 162 -73
    M7 156 -79
    M8 151 -84
    M9 148 -87
    M10 146 -89
    M11 144 -91
    M12 143 -92
    M13 142 -93
    M14 140 -95
    M15 139 -96
    M16 137 -98
    M17 135 -100

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