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    Question HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    I keep getting told by my dietician and I keep reading articles about waiting 30 minutes between eating & drinking.

    But why? Why must I not drink for 90 minutes? How do I drink anything if I'm only allowed a 30-minute period 90 minutes apart?

    I think my hardest habit to break is drinking while I'm eating! I've tried to make sure that I consume very moist foods, but that doesn't always help. I still need water to wash down my food.

    So WHY do I have to wait 30 minutes...

    and HOW do I stop drinking?

    I'm always thirsty (and no I'm not diabetic).

    This article came close to telling me why, but it still says just don't do it (and it says to always keep a bottle of water handy):
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Restrict-L...nes&id=5106917

    So please please share with me how you do it and why I should, without saying "Because I said so!"
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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    I am no doctor and have read many opinions on this but for me what made the most sense is that there are only a few opportunities a day to consume nutrient dense food and that we don't want to mix the food with liquids that would cause not being able to take in enough food and that the liquid can cause the digestion to occur faster which would minimize the time to absorb the nutrients. As well as possibly stretching out the pouch.

    For me I believe that if you are confident that you are getting in the required protein and nutrients throughout the day taking a sip of fluid right before, during or after eating is not going to cause a major issue. This is my opinion only.

    I am a newbie so if any veterans out there want to put me in my place with FACTS then feel free to do so.



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    I have had a gastric sleeve.
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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    My dr allows drinking prior to meal time. None after for 30 minutes.
    They said it is because drinking will make you get full faster and that it will also help push food though. So then you're consuming more calories.



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    Gastric Sleeve Member D618's Avatar
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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    That worries me too, the not being able to drink and eat at the same time. I too need a good amount of water with my meals, it cuts down the acid reflux I get so frequently. I haven't had the surgery yet, but all my ducks are in a row, and I'm now waiting for insurance approval. Would it hurt to take a few sips of water before a meal and maybe a few during the meal? For instance, if you eat 4 oz. at each sitting, could you do 3 oz. of food and 1 oz. of water? I'm sure that taking more time to chew your food will also help cut down on the need to drink water to help push the food down too.



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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    See this thread!

    https://www.gastricsleeve.com/forum/...ad.php?t=64296

    BTW, if you use the search function here (see upper left part of the screen) you can find soooo many threads on aaaannnyyy topic you are interested in. I certainly don't mean to suggest that you shouldn't ask any quetsions! But most questions you could possibly think of have been asked and answered very well in the past. Of course, the discussion can vary considerably every time it gets asked. So keep searching. And asking.



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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    I read that if you drink while eating it causes the stomach to stretch? I'm having a difficult time with it too as I always drink water with my food. My doctor said 30 minutes before or after, so I'm trying to stick with that guideline. Hang in there!!



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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    you can have a sip or two with your meal if you really "have to", but you'll notice that you won't be able to eat your protein very well. You might get too full and barf some foam or slime. I've never timed my drinking/eating, and have always had sips during eating, but it never ends well.....


    Quote Originally Posted by chrissue View Post
    I read that if you drink while eating it causes the stomach to stretch? I'm having a difficult time with it too as I always drink water with my food. My doctor said 30 minutes before or after, so I'm trying to stick with that guideline. Hang in there!!




    HW: 275
    PreOp: 268 5/12/16

    SW: 258. 5/27/2016
    10 w: 225. Goal 1
    12 w: 222.
    14 w: 216.
    4 m: 215
    5 m: 205
    22: 199.4 10/30 Goal 2
    24: 196
    6 mo: 191
    7 m: 193
    8 m: 184
    9 m: 180 2/3/17. Goal 3
    10 m: 179
    11 m: 171
    48: 170
    1 yr: 166.6. 5/27/17
    13 m: 165.8
    5 y,10 m: 215
    7 yrs: 230


    Revised Goal : 200
    "Bonus" Goal: 180

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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by etsybay View Post
    ... This article came close to telling me why, but it still says just don't do it (and it says to always keep a bottle of water handy):
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Restrict-L...nes&id=5106917

    So please please share with me how you do it and why I should, without saying "Because I said so!"
    Quote Originally Posted by D618 View Post
    ... Would it hurt to take a few sips of water before a meal and maybe a few during the meal? For instance, if you eat 4 oz. at each sitting, could you do 3 oz. of food and 1 oz. of water? I'm sure that taking more time to chew your food will also help cut down on the need to drink water to help push the food down too.
    My 9.5 month (corrected) post op limited understanding is that our VSG journey and good nutrition starts at our mouth.

    Chewing and sipping are two #1 essentials tools for life.

    Because our smaller stomachs the food we eat has less time to be fully broken down and nutrients absorbed as mentioned above. That's why regular labs 1-4x a year is highly recommended to track any deficiencies, but I don't want to regress. So.

    Nutrition starts in our mouths. Why? Chewing produces saliva which is full of much needed enzymes. Enzymes start breaking down food in our mouths, the more we chew the less work our sleeved stomachs have to do and the more nutrients it can extract from the well chewed food.

    No water 30 min before/after eating rule is helpful because of the low stomach acid available to breakdown the food we just ate. Drinking water while eating halts or delays the enzymes production caused by chewing only. Without enzymes helping breakdown nutrients our stomach will not be able to absorb life sustaining amino acids from protein and complex carbs and that will be detrimental to our health in the long run. So just know if you sip on water you are just asking for trouble maybe not now, but what will be the caus and affect in 10 - 20 years? I'm almost 49 years old and the reason I chose Sleeve Gastrectomy was so I could live a healthy longer life and enjoy my golden years without being a huge burden ;no pun intended, to my family.

    Thanks for posting article btw! and good to hear from you Etsybay!!! If I find the digestive articles I've read I will post to comment later on.
    Reason: Post op month correct 9.5 months NOT 10.5 month (good grief)
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    M1: 211.3 (-14.7)
    M2: 203 (-8.3)
    M3: 196.5 (-6.5)
    M4: 191.5 (-5)
    M5: 186.3 (-5.2)
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    M8: 179.4 (-6.9)
    M9: 177.1 (-2.3)
    M10: 174 (-3.1)
    M11: 171.5 (-2.5)
    M12: 171 (-.5)
    Y1.1: 170 (-1)

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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    The best explanation I have seen in the 5 years since my sleeve about not eating and drinking together is found by searching youtube for apple sauce and a funnel. or look up formerfatdudes on you tube and look for the apple sauce and funnel thing. . its a little long but at about 1:58 it shows you exactly why you shouldnt eat and drink together.

    I cant seem to get the link to work on this pagge or id post it
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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    Https://youtu.be/xROVM3mnsgM

    This is the apple sauce link



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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    that applesauce/funnel video only applies to bypass patients. With the sleeve, we get to keep our pyloric valves, while bypass pts don't. Our pyloric valves function just like before surgery.

    Quote Originally Posted by ACE View Post
    The best explanation I have seen in the 5 years since my sleeve about not eating and drinking together is found by searching youtube for apple sauce and a funnel. or look up formerfatdudes on you tube and look for the apple sauce and funnel thing. . its a little long but at about 1:58 it shows you exactly why you shouldnt eat and drink together.

    I cant seem to get the link to work on this pagge or id post it




    HW: 275
    PreOp: 268 5/12/16

    SW: 258. 5/27/2016
    10 w: 225. Goal 1
    12 w: 222.
    14 w: 216.
    4 m: 215
    5 m: 205
    22: 199.4 10/30 Goal 2
    24: 196
    6 mo: 191
    7 m: 193
    8 m: 184
    9 m: 180 2/3/17. Goal 3
    10 m: 179
    11 m: 171
    48: 170
    1 yr: 166.6. 5/27/17
    13 m: 165.8
    5 y,10 m: 215
    7 yrs: 230


    Revised Goal : 200
    "Bonus" Goal: 180

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Pam G's Avatar
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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    this is the most logical reason I've heard of so far.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Shirl View Post
    My 10.5 month post op limited understanding is that our VSG journey and good nutrition starts at our mouth.

    Chewing and sipping are two #1 essentials tools for life.

    Because our smaller stomachs the food we eat has less time to be fully broken down and nutrients absorbed as mentioned above. That's why regular labs 1-4x a year is highly recommended to track any deficiencies, but I don't want to regress. So.

    Nutrition starts in our mouths. Why? Chewing produces saliva which is full of much needed enzymes. Enzymes start breaking down food in our mouths, the more we chew the less work our sleeved stomachs have to do and the more nutrients it can extract from the well chewed food.

    No water 30 min before/after eating rule is helpful because of the low stomach acid available to breakdown the food we just ate. Drinking water while eating halts or delays the enzymes production caused by chewing only. Without enzymes helping breakdown nutrients our stomach will not be able to absorb life sustaining amino acids from protein and complex carbs and that will be detrimental to our health in the long run. So just know if you sip on water you are just asking for trouble maybe not now, but what will be the caus and affect in 10 - 20 years? I'm almost 49 years old and the reason I chose Sleeve Gastrectomy was so I could live a healthy longer life and enjoy my golden years without being a huge burden ;no pun intended, to my family.

    Thanks for posting article btw! and good to hear from you Etsybay!!! If I find the digestive articles I've read I will post to comment later on.




    HW: 275
    PreOp: 268 5/12/16

    SW: 258. 5/27/2016
    10 w: 225. Goal 1
    12 w: 222.
    14 w: 216.
    4 m: 215
    5 m: 205
    22: 199.4 10/30 Goal 2
    24: 196
    6 mo: 191
    7 m: 193
    8 m: 184
    9 m: 180 2/3/17. Goal 3
    10 m: 179
    11 m: 171
    48: 170
    1 yr: 166.6. 5/27/17
    13 m: 165.8
    5 y,10 m: 215
    7 yrs: 230


    Revised Goal : 200
    "Bonus" Goal: 180

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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    I'm sorry u are thirsty. My surgery date is April 25th and I will SOON KNOW what your talking bout. Maybe just take a sip with your meal. Idk. I'm no dr. Much luck and LOVE TO YOU����


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    That's good advise. Thanks!! ����


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    Default Re: HOW & WHY in layman's terms, please.

    Wow you have done great����SO HAPPY FOR YOU!! PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO TELL US HOW FAT WE ARE LIKE WE DONT ALREADY KNOW IT ANY WAY!! People can be so cruel!! JESUS LOVES US JUST AS WE ARE SO WHY CANT OTHER PEOPLE DO THE SAME!! Just saying.


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