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    Gastric Sleeve Member Stacy'sSleevedLife's Avatar
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    Tips: Do your research and be happy with your decision and confident in your doctor. Gas-x is a must for many, I only had 1 bout of gas pains and that was it, the rest of the time was easy peasy. I played Facebook games and watched movies, it was like a well needed 3 day rest with my feet kicked up. I had an translators there to help me many of the nurses in the hospital don't speak English but I am glad a lot of the doctors do.

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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    B p Mexico forum disregards the top surgeons in TJ who are by far the most credentialed and practice at highly regarded facilities. I am not saying it is necessary to choose these surgeons but the fact that several posts were removed about these internationally respected surgeons really does not permit the free flowing ideas of discussion. Nothing wrong with folks chatting about their experiences with their doctor, regardress if they are part of the special promotion.
    They are basically limiting the forum to their selected surgeons. The forum used to be excellent and now it reeks of shills and even the Drs themselves offering to speak to you. Very professional, huh?


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    Gastric Sleeve Member Kindle's Avatar
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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    Well, I have officially joined the ranks of banned BP members. I've been there for over 2 years but like Sleeveroo said, Akex has allowed the site to become a marketing tool for his little surgeon group. David had been deleting my OCC posts and when I asked Alex about it, he accused me of being a coordinator and banned me. (Yeah, cause a coordinator has time enough to make over 3000 posts about their "fake" fecal transplants, horseback riding, anti-scale policy, and friend's death). What a dick.



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    Alex is the b p owner who has previously been quoted as recommending against surgery in Mexico. The coordinator David is a parrot trying to be nice but offers minimal knowledge. Maybe they give good service to patients. Some of their doctors are pretty good, some unknowns before the b pal special deals but only permitting positive chirping about their surgeons says it all. I did like a response David made regarding Dr Verboonen and his felony charge and jail time. "It was not a big deal, no patients were hurt and it was along time ago. Then they add Dr Almanza to this "elite group" consequently remove and trash him.


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    Gastric Sleeve Member Kindle's Avatar
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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    Money just can't buy good ethics these days!

    David also made a big shpeel about why their surgeries are so cheap...it's because the coordinators "pay checks" are a lot lower than others. Same qualified surgeons, same equipment, same facilities, just the coordinators make less money. Yeah, I'm sure Dr. Corvala's and OCC's coordinators make $2000-$3000 per surgery MORE than him and "Henry".



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    David is a fool but people fall for his explanations. They are providing a disservice by deleting info of the better surgeons. I wonder how they dealt with the $2999 competitor?
    The Dr who lurks on b pal offering his services and a Skype session is also annoying.
    I had a chat with one of Dr Corvala's senior Fellows about cost and quality in Mexico and they were very concerned about these bargains. He mentioned how they cut corners and short change the patient. He said that Mexico is trying to clean up some of the shady medical practitioners but it will take time.

    I think b p is a good site if you excluded Mexico and Self Pay section.


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    Gastric Sleeve Member Kindle's Avatar
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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeveroo View Post
    David is a fool but people fall for his explanations. They are providing a disservice by deleting info of the better surgeons. I wonder how they dealt with the $2999 competitor?
    The Dr who lurks on b pal offering his services and a Skype session is also annoying.
    I had a chat with one of Dr Corvala's senior Fellows about cost and quality in Mexico and they were very concerned about these bargains. He mentioned how they cut corners and short change the patient. He said that Mexico is trying to clean up some of the shady medical practitioners but it will take time.

    I think b p is a good site if you excluded Mexico and Self Pay section.
    Agreed. Although prior to the BP Deals corrupting the integrity, that forum was a very helpful place to gather certain information about the many Mexico options. The research findings you provided was great. Unfortunately it's just not an "honest" forum anymore.



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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    These websites have a vested interest. They are either owned by specific surgeons or make their revenue from surgeons who advertise on their website.

    That is why it is important to obtain information from multiple sources. Even "scientific studies" could be skewed in favor of someone's or some company's personal gain.

    The part that really pisses me off are people who are coordinators and pretend to be only members in forums and befriend people or promote their surgeon and do not disclose that fact.



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    Kindle's 202 page thread was locked by Alex and he blamed shills and Dr Ortiz staff for not complying with the website rules. All he cares about is his Skype doctors and partially accurate info provided to potential patients looking for unbiased support. Not happening anymore. Expect to see a few more doctors that no one has ever heard of come and go from the website.


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    I'm kind of confuse, I don't get it, there's people posting as patients, because this lady told me about Quinones, I researched on line and found out she is the Nutritionist for Dr Quinones pompeiisurgical. com /page / our-team I also went to bp, which you guys mention a lot, I really don't know what to do at this point, I am scare now!! HELP!!

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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    lot of shady stuff going on however there are many well intentioned people providing their experiences. I believe experiences are good to read about but many people are not qualified to judge a hospital or doctor in detail.


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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    just keep on doing your research. Certain surgeons are relatively easy to research. Some of the newbies like on b pal , are difficult to find info on outside of their website. I spent hours combing the internet, viewing YouTube surgery videos and getting detailed info about the hospitals. I was unimpressed with most of them.


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    Gastric Sleeve Member Luann's Avatar
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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    I did spend a bit of time on that forum, but decided it wasn't for me & preferred it here. Not as welcoming, just seemed like too much bullying & once one got their teeth in the rest would pile on. I still have my account there but I never check in.

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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    I thought that website was helpful when researching last year before the special deals infiltrated the site. Of course, one needs to be selective with info. It was not that difficult figuring out who were the most qualified surgeons. I was able to have my top 5 based on credentials, reputation and quality of hospital.


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    Default Re: Another website goes to the Dark Side

    I was also banned on BP and had serveral of my posts deleted.

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