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    I have just been to see "That Sugar Film" (highly recommended), read "Fat Chance" by Robert Lustig and am wading my way through "Salt, Sugar, Fat" by Michael Moss.

    The gist of it is these is:
    Sugar is addictive.
    One calorie of one food type does not equal another due to the effects it has on the body metabolically.
    The food industry creates food to addict people to them.
    These foods are low cost and readily available.
    Lots of people do not have facilities to cook.
    Lots of people do not know how to cook.
    In some areas healthy ingredients are not available due to location or cost.
    Society has changed from delayed gratification to instant gratification - now if we are hungry we want to eat NOW and not have to wait while food is prepared and cooked.
    Society has grown to believe that processed foods that were originally developed to be occasional foods are now everyday foods, even every meal or every hour.
    Lack of education about poor food choices and effect on the body.
    Lack of public health initiatives.
    A lot of the programs in the US that provide free food etc provide foods that are not healthy ie packed with sugar in it's various forms such as orange juice.
    Food industry not willing to make their products more healthy/delete product lines as they want the $$$'s.
    Public having been brain washed in the past as to what is 'healthy food'.

    Looking at ingredients, if it contains sugar it is classified as a dessert, and at the most should be consumed as an occasional food.
    If there is more than a couple of ingredients it is a processed product. Processed products have the goodness removed. These products do not reflect on what the original ingredients were as they have been so altered, but on what was created in a lab.




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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    That's interesting.

    What is it that you are trying to say?



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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    Where did you see this film? Sounds interesting.



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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    Yes, there's a lot about the current state of first-world peoples' relationships with food (their food options, their choices, their eating behaviors) that resembles the addictive challenges some have around other substances.

    But ignoring the boring debate, "Is it really addiction?", I bet we can agree that those of us challenged by obesity now live in a dangerous environment. Our current food options and their ready availability are incredibly different than 50-60-70 years ago. We live at the intersection of many other tremendous changes in our work activities and requirements, leisure activities, food ingredients, food additives, food prices, serving sizes, daily schedules, transportation systems, living arrangements, etc. All these changes have created an environment in which it is difficult NOT to become overweight and obese.

    As a result, today 69% of American adults are overweight or obese; of those, half are obese. In the 1950s, 43% of Americans were overweight or obese; of those, a quarter were obese.

    The times they have changed. And we have to change even more if we are to thrive.

    Sources:
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/38...en-since-1950/



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    This explains better than me why a calorie does not equal a calorie.

    http://authoritynutrition.com/6-reas...not-a-calorie/

    The rest was a summary of the key points from the film, and the books.




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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    Ok...here we go.

    You have posted the biggest load of crap I've ever seen. No sugar coating it. The things that you are saying are bad are actually good if you are sleeved.

    You need to log about 1 year with your sleeve before you start copying and pasting other people's thoughts. Hell, the part I went and looked at didn't mention the sleeve one time. Why would you post information on losing weight while not being sleeved on a site specifically for folks who are sleeved?

    Here's a suggestion. Try finding out things on your own by experimenting and trying various combinations of nutrition, hydration, supplements and exercise, and then post an original thought.

    In my most humble opinion, you are doing way more harm than good.




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    No problems Tinman, you are entitled to your humble opinion.

    My opinion is backed up by science.

    I have been experimenting with diets and nutrition for nearly 40 years.
    I have two Bachelor Degrees in Science.
    I have worked in Clinical Research as a Clinical Research Coordinator for a well known and respected University.
    I am a health professional.
    I attend ongoing health professional update meetings and I read up on latest information.
    I have also chronic, and at this stage incurable, medical conditions dating back to 1996 and know a lot about supplements.

    http://ed.ted.com/lessons/how-sugar-...n-nicole-avena



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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    Your post has a wealth of information but I at a loss as to what this has to do with a VGS forum. We should really be helping, lifting each other. Most people will tell you why they are obese & how they got there. I don't think anyone feels they just woke up one day & poof, they were obese. This is a life long journey and I admire your background and research but a post like this may just feed into other's negatively. Unless you have access to 5 acres of land with your own cow, goat, chickens, turkeys, farmer & such, most of us don't have the ability to eat so clean as we should. It doesn't take a degree or science to know this. Having the VGS surgery gives you the ability to become healthier overall.



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    Default Re: A Calorie Does Not Equal A Calorie

    Information is power, and enables people to make informed, well considered choices.

    There are a number of people on this site who have experienced weight regain and are seeking advice.



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    There are a number of people on this site who have experienced weight regain and are seeking advice.

    I understand and more importantly, I agree. My only opinion is that until you lose your weight with the sleeve, gain it back and then lose it again, you are not qualified to give advice. Just an opinion. Any anyone with your obvious clinical training and educational background shouldn't have to copy and paste someone else's ideas as his own.

    Have experience. Have an original thought. Have relevance.



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    Here you are Tinman!
    One for you!

    http://www.gastricsleeve.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=57509



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    He's not hooked on sweets, he's hooked on overeating sweets. You'd know this if you had any experience with living with the sleeve post op.

    So, I tell you what you do. Why don't you post back to him and let him know what he should do. Shouldn't take you too long to copy and paste the links for 17 or 18 articles on dieting and exercise.

    Oh, and be sure to include your clinical and educational qualifications. Nothing impresses folks more than when someone feels compelled to cite their education and professional accomplishments in order to strengthen their arguments.

    Me....all I do is tell em to look at my ticker.



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