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  1. Hi Nancy, nice to hear from you!
    We used to live in Zwanenburg, very nearby Osdorp.
    My hubby worked at Schiphol, at the Air Traffic Control.
    But since he retired we travel fulltime in our motorhome through Europe and Morocco.

    Sounds like you are doing great!
    Yes, this is a bit boring, sipping, walking and sleeping, but soon you will burst with energy!
    Well, I guess "kwark" is a liquid in Belgium! LOL
    I followed the "clear liquids, thicker liquids, pureed foods, soft foods, solid foods" rule.
    It just felt better for me somehow.
    I wish you continued succes with your sleeve!
    And thanks for messaging me!
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    Hello DutchSleeve!

    I am 5 days out, down to 75.1 today and so pleased! We also live near Schipol, in Osdorp. My days consist of sipping, sleeping and walking.

    I do use a few paracetamols a day, but less each day. My partner made beef broth and now chicken broth for me, which really does the trick.
    My Belgian Dr also recommended kwark or yogurt for this first week. I guess that is a “liquid” too!
    Good luck with your journey! Nancy

  3. So, I must learn to ski!
    That will be fun...

    You were already thinking about moving to a mountain area, weren't you?
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    Thanks! We did, and I also came home with a 3 pound loss! I should move to the mountains and become a ski bum and I'd be really thin.
  5. Wow!
    That is very strict.
    Maybe a good idea for a lot of western countries...
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    The Japanese government requires citizens to have their waistline measurements submitted by their drs yearly.
    If it is over I think 36 inches they must go thru a rehab of sorts. If they do not lose the inches they are fined.
    Not many overweight Japanese.
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    Thank you!
  8. Obesity is becoming more and more a problem in Europe, but I must admit, that Scandinavia seems to be last in that department.

    WLS is not common here.
    Lots of primary care phycisians still have this "eat less, move more" mentality.
    Obesity is still not seen as a chronic disease, but is recognised as a major health problem more and more.
    And though the sleeve surgery is on the winning hand, it is still nog done as much as the bypass.
    There is still the misconception that the weightloss would be less with a sleeve and better with the gbp.
    Which, as we all know, is not entirely true.

    The difference after the procedure is quite significant, in my opinion.
    The nutricional regime varies even from hospital to hospital and from country to country.
    The regime like in the US, being first the clear liquid stage, then the full liquid, the soft food, soft solids and then "normal"food is not common, to say the least.
    I personally know of hospital in Belgium, where patients are required after one day to first eat solid food, before they are allowed to be discharged from the hospital.
    They are send home with a diet of potatoes, vegetables and protein.
    Also the dietitians are not up to date, to say the least.

    We also have to eat our proteins, but far less than I read here.
    The formula 0,8 times kg weight is the daily requirement.
    So with my weight I would need 43 grams.
    More is not required.
    The fact that I do eat a lot more freaks people out... :-)
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    I'm curious what the differences are between US and European sleevers? I assume the US has more overweight people, and the surgery is more common? I'm not sure if that's true, but on my visits to the Scandinavian countries everyone looked great! I saw more bikes than cars. Meals weren't as oversized as they are in America. Or am I stereotyping?
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    Your English is great! Glad you are joining us!
  11. Currently we are in Spain, where I had my surgery done.
    We are fulltimers, living in our TV.
    We used to live near Schiphol, my husband worked at the air traffic control deprtment.
    I know the are many people from the USA living in the area whre you lived, due to the presence of a NATO base.
    Is that why you lived there?
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    Are you in the Netherlands? I lived in Landgraaf from 2011-2014.
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The sleeve and the hammer.

by DutchSleeve on 06-18-2018 at 01:47 AM
As some of you may know, I am constantly doing research and browsing through the internet, to learn as much as I want to about the sleeve and other wls procedures.
Yesterday I came across a youtube video from Dori'sJourney and she had a great analogy, I thought I'd share.

Our sleeve is a tool, just like a hammer.
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