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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
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    Default Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    I got the latest issue of People Magazine the other day and besides Oprah (ugh!) being on the cover for yet again her endless tale of weight gain and losses - sorry can't stand the woman she's so annoying; there is an article in it featuring women who were very successful in their weight losses. The story is here - http://people.com/bodies/lost-half-t...-submit-story/

    So ok that's great BUT why do the articles like this feel the need to make the disclaimer of "they did it without surgery"??? That just ticks me off sorry. It just feeds into the negativity of people who do go the route of WLS and honestly kind of diminishes our own successes. Yes the WLS let me lose the weight but anything after I hit my goal weight is completely due to my own healthy choices as I said here below in my email to the editor of that article. Sorry just venting...

    "While it’s great that people lose weight why is it necessary to say “without surgery”? That comment alone implies that one way is better than the other and it’s not sorry. WLS is NOT easy and it’s a myth that once the surgery is done we lost weight and that’s it. I had WLS nearly 5 years ago and yes it helped me lose the weight after I tried everything to lose it on my own after years of being 200 to 100 to 200 to 100 back and forth. But anything past 4.5 years ago after I got to my goal weight is due to me and my own hard work

    Stop with the “without surgery” it’s hard enough to get away from the stigma and negativity of WLF without articles as yours"



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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    I agree and I encourage you to write a well thought out letter to the editors. Xoxoxo
    HW: 245lbs (11/15); SW: 226lbs (5/17/16) - Height: 5'6"

    Post-Op Weight:
    M1: 211.3 (-14.7)
    M2: 203 (-8.3)
    M3: 196.5 (-6.5)
    M4: 191.5 (-5)
    M5: 186.3 (-5.2)
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    M8: 179.4 (-6.9)
    M9: 177.1 (-2.3)
    M10: 174 (-3.1)
    M11: 171.5 (-2.5)
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    Y1.1: 170 (-1)

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Ann2's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Yup. There's so much ignorance about WLS.

    As most of us know, losing weight isn't the toughest part or the part that restores our health. It's changing our lifelong behaviors that contributed to our becoming obese and then creating and living a new lifestyle.

    However, I'll give a huge shoutout to my sleeve. That's one tool I didn't have in years past when I lost weight or attempted to maintain my weight loss. Every research study I've read says clearly that ON AVERAGE WLS patients have more success maintaining their weight losses than those who lose weight through diet and exericise alone. However, it's not WLS vs. diet and exercise. It's WLS + diet + exercise vs. diet + exercise

    And given this WLS advantage, it's illogical to me that "the more effective way" becomes slurred as "the easy way." Neither way is easy. But one way appears to offer more long-term benefits to more people.

    Sheesh.



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    Exclamation Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    There was a time that I did it without surgery. But what they don't see is 3-5 years down the road, they are trying to get it off again. I have been 236 to 135 to 260 to 145 to now 272. I want and need a permanent solution. I can tell most times I was that small, I was hungry and angry all the time because I was hungry. A very unpleasant person. It's difficult like you say. And Oprah, I respect her as a business woman, but with this weight loss issue, she has all that money. Pay for a nutritionist and get over yourself. She could have been had the surgery as a permanent solution. People like us don't have the resources that she does. It has really gotten on my nerves. Then, they wonder why her new campaign has not had the "OPRA EFFECT". It is because it is the struggle with weight loss is real. At this point, Opra is fake.



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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Weight loss is a huge business, so I think it's probably because of that aspect that many newspapers/media will continue to say that bariatric surgery is the easy way.....and for a very long time! They would not get money from surgeons...but they will get money from all those brands who sell broken pixie dust in a beautiful package...
    All studies show that a diet will not be efficient for a person who's morbidly obese. Only bariatric surgery will save people from dying from obesity. Not the last diet from magazines.


    HW : 150 kgs
    09/02/2014 : 142 /1st apt
    01/20/2016 : 134 /surgery
    01/30/2016 : 130 /1st post-op
    02/27/2016 : 126 /2nd
    04/23/2016 : 118 /3rd
    07/16/2016 : 109 / 4th
    10/01/2016 : 103 /5th
    01/21/2017 : 98 /1 year post-op
    February 2017 : 100 lbs lost
    07/22/2017 : 96
    10/21/2017 : 93
    12/22/2017 : 91
    01/02/2018 : 96!! regain (medication)

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    Gastric Sleeve Member Christie13's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Absolutely would love to see follow up stories on all the people they've had over the years and how they're doing now. How many years they've been able to maintain. Just like all those Biggest Loser contestants...a lot of them regain. The WLS stigma needs to stop. It's a huge reason I have told very few people.



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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    I understand how some may feel that. It doesn't bother me. Surgery is expensive and for years I struggled with weight loss not thinking that I would ever be able to afford it. So, I wanted to read articles about successful weight loss stories that did not involve a method I thought I could not afford.

    Now that I've had my surgery I can empathize with both sides of the fence.
    Bagawk!





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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Totally bugs me too! But absolutely every article about weight loss says the exact same thing. Let those other people keep trying and failing, our way works best!!

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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Dr. Barbara Berkeley, an obesity physician at the Cleveland Clinic, discussed last year's People Magazine 'half their size article.' She states that the maintenance diets these women follow are unsustainable in the long run.

    http://www.refusetoregain.com/2016/0...ize-issue.html

    She also says that society focuses too much on the weight loss when the real challenge is weight maintenance. Without surgery, 90 percent of major losers regain a significant amount of weight.

    Losing weight without surgery is easy. I've lost a couple of hundred of pounds over the years (50 here, 60 there), only to regain it all plus more most of the time. Keeping the weight off is the harder part. Bariatric surgery has offered me a fighting chance to keep the weight off.


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    4/6/15 Highest Wt 225 (yes: 25 lb gain)
    4/20/15 Surgery Wt 218, BMI 41

    1 mo 203.0 -15
    2 mo 190.5 -12.5
    3 mo 184.5 -6
    4 mo 177.0 -7.5
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    10 m 143 -6
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    Dec '17: BMI 23.5; consumes 2000+ kcal/day

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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Yesterday at the seminar, the surgeon talked about the subject of weight watchers; Jenny Craig; and other markets for weight loss. He said 'you notice there aren't reports or studies on the folks... 5, 6, 10 years down the road? There aren't any studies reported because people can't do it' (keeping the weight off). Then he explained that the sleeve (and WLS) is a tool. And it will help you tremendously IF you change your eating habits.
    I don't want many people knowing of my impending surgery, because I KNOW there will be the negative ass hats making comments on 'just go on a diet...surgery is the easy way out.'

    Height: 5'8"
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    Day of Surgery Weight: 223 / Pre-Op nutrition diet: LOST 47 pounds
    1 Month Weight: 202 (-21 lbs.) TOTAL LOST: 64 pounds
    2 Month: Weight: 188 (-14 lbs.) TOTAL LOST: 78 pounds
    6 Month Weight: 169 (-2) BMI: 25.7 TOTAL LOST: 97 pounds
    "If you can't laugh at yourself, life's going to seem a whole lot longer."

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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    That's what is in the bolded letters in my original post here - I sent the email this morning
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirl View Post
    I agree and I encourage you to write a well thought out letter to the editors. Xoxoxo



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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Oh god Oprah - yuk - I remember her when she went on the liquid diet and stayed her size 10 like for 10 minutes. I just posted on Facebook the other day that it's a toss up between Oprah and Amy Schumer (miss I'm a size 6 snort snort cough cough) on who is more annoying lol Thank GOD for the mute button on TV cause every time the WW commercial comes on that's what I hit

    Quote Originally Posted by Terri7 View Post
    There was a time that I did it without surgery. But what they don't see is 3-5 years down the road, they are trying to get it off again. I have been 236 to 135 to 260 to 145 to now 272. I want and need a permanent solution. I can tell most times I was that small, I was hungry and angry all the time because I was hungry. A very unpleasant person. It's difficult like you say. And Oprah, I respect her as a business woman, but with this weight loss issue, she has all that money. Pay for a nutritionist and get over yourself. She could have been had the surgery as a permanent solution. People like us don't have the resources that she does. It has really gotten on my nerves. Then, they wonder why her new campaign has not had the "OPRA EFFECT". It is because it is the struggle with weight loss is real. At this point, Opra is fake.



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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Yeah but my point is that society already looks at WLS as some magic easy fix and lazy way out when it's not! It diminishes the hard work we have to do afterwards to maintain. Losing is easy maintaining is all me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bagawk! View Post
    I understand how some may feel that. It doesn't bother me. Surgery is expensive and for years I struggled with weight loss not thinking that I would ever be able to afford it. So, I wanted to read articles about successful weight loss stories that did not involve a method I thought I could not afford.

    Now that I've had my surgery I can empathize with both sides of the fence.



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    Gastric Sleeve Member azladyrider's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    Exactly! I've known quite a few who have had the surgery and gained it all back which I personally cannot imagine. I didn't care who knows or knew at the time either - as a matter of fact when I finally made a public comment on Facebook people who I didn't really know all that well got ahold of me and asked and 7 friends have now had the sleeve done with great results.
    Quote Originally Posted by DesrtGal View Post
    Yesterday at the seminar, the surgeon talked about the subject of weight watchers; Jenny Craig; and other markets for weight loss. He said 'you notice there aren't reports or studies on the folks... 5, 6, 10 years down the road? There aren't any studies reported because people can't do it' (keeping the weight off). Then he explained that the sleeve (and WLS) is a tool. And it will help you tremendously IF you change your eating habits.
    I don't want many people knowing of my impending surgery, because I KNOW there will be the negative ass hats making comments on 'just go on a diet...surgery is the easy way out.'



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    Gastric Sleeve Member Pam G's Avatar
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    Default Re: Do articles like this piss anyone else off?

    I was thinking the same thing about 3-5 yrs down the road. What they really need is an article on follow up of all the people they've done articles like this on over the last 20 years!! Let's see if they've kept it off.

    that said, WLS folks can also gain back weight. Some a little, some all of it, and some all plus more. And some keep it all off like Kindle and Ann2.



    Quote Originally Posted by Terri7 View Post
    There was a time that I did it without surgery. But what they don't see is 3-5 years down the road, they are trying to get it off again. I have been 236 to 135 to 260 to 145 to now 272. I want and need a permanent solution. I can tell most times I was that small, I was hungry and angry all the time because I was hungry. A very unpleasant person. It's difficult like you say. And Oprah, I respect her as a business woman, but with this weight loss issue, she has all that money. Pay for a nutritionist and get over yourself. She could have been had the surgery as a permanent solution. People like us don't have the resources that she does. It has really gotten on my nerves. Then, they wonder why her new campaign has not had the "OPRA EFFECT". It is because it is the struggle with weight loss is real. At this point, Opra is fake.




    HW: 275
    PreOp: 268 5/12/16

    SW: 258. 5/27/2016
    10 w: 225. Goal 1
    12 w: 222.
    14 w: 216.
    4 m: 215
    5 m: 205
    22: 199.4 10/30 Goal 2
    24: 196
    6 mo: 191
    7 m: 193
    8 m: 184
    9 m: 180 2/3/17. Goal 3
    10 m: 179
    11 m: 171
    48: 170
    1 yr: 166.6. 5/27/17
    13 m: 165.8
    5 y,10 m: 215
    7 yrs: 230


    Revised Goal : 200
    "Bonus" Goal: 180

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