yes there is a procedure called sleeve revision..you can get this in Mexico as well. No one is perfect and should not judge, but sometimes on here we have a few that seem to forget and I believe get caught up in their success after surgery--or have yet to have surgery but seem to "know it all". Just ignore these types The loss of a loved one, especially a profound experience as losing a parent, will take a toll on your mental state causing you to seek comfort, peace. Food seems to be a go to for many people. I wish you much success!

I saw a French documentary last month, it was about gastric surgery in general, and one surgeon said at one point that when the sleeve doesn't work anymore and patient gain too much weight, going with a bypass is the best option. I personally wouldn't chose that option, I have IBS and don't want any surgery on my intestines...but a close friend had a bypass a few year ago, she was diabetic, after surgery she was cured!

Now, since you are a stress eater, I wonder if surgery is the best option right now because may be you would need some help to deal with those issues before an other surgery? therapy could be a good idea, or a support group. Because an other surgery won't help if you still eat or drink the wrong things after... I had to see a psychiatrist before getting the approval for surgery. It was a long process but I did have nice chats with him and did learn a lot, especially about those studies who show a high risk of suicide after a sleeve. I had no idea...

A regain of 10% is expected after a sleeve around one year 1/2, two years. For you it's more but 50 pounds is not that much after all....do you still feel a restriction? I was told that after surgery even if I can eat more at one year I will never be able to eat more than one plate. If it's true for you, may be tracking your food and making better choice could do the trick?

I don't know if I will be losing what I'm supposed to at one year, but for sure I'm really scared of regain...I understand how you feel...and I hope you will find a solution...best of luck and take care.

Before trying something so drastic, have you tried going back to basics? Maybe do a pre op diet again and see if you an lose some of it . Or do the pouch test.
I agree with Sandra, maybe find some professional help to try to fix the root of the problem.

Good luck! You did it once, you can definitely do it again!!

I second (or third) the suggestion for counseling or therapy. You need to find a way to deal with life's stresses other than to eat. Because stress and grief and hard times are never going to go away. Another surgery won't fix what's really wrong. I'm just over 2 years out and everything was hunky dory until my best friend committed suicide. I refused to turn to my old pals, food and alcohol for comfort, so I was left with unbearable grief and depression and no way to deal with it. After 10 months of reluctantly going through the motions of living and falling deeper into darkness I finally started seeing a therapist. She's helping me learn how to deal with not only my grief but also how to handle other shit life throws at me. I finally see a light at the end if the tunnel.....and it's not filled with food!

Obesity is a mental disease, not a physical one, and it's never really about the food. I'm really sorry about your mom. You will carry the pain of her loss forever, but I think with the right kind of help and guidance you can learn how to live with it without eating away all the great progress you've made. Good luck and Again, I'm so sorry for your loss.

No one should judge you on this. Only someone horrible would do so. Im so sorry about the loss of your mother. I cant imagine the pain you must have been and still are going through. I agree you may need to see a therapist to help deal with the grief and also help with the stress eating. Believe me it does help to talk with someone on a professional level. Family and friends mean well but sometimes we need a little more than they can provide. Also Like Greatest decision said, have you tried the reset diet for a week? Its what you would have done before surgery. Mine is clear liquids and 1-400 cal meal. all calories not to exceed 1000. I dont know what your pre op diet was but maybe doing that will help. some people who do it say the feel their restriction again and are able to once again lose the weight. Dont give up and remember we are here for you with no judgements.

Originally Posted by Kindle

Obesity is a mental disease, not a physical one

I wish it was true for me. But we are all different...Unfortunately, a few years ago a specialist found that I have obesity markers on my DNA. It seems it's also linked to asthma. Basically, I started to gain weight when I was 8, when I started to have asthma and lungs infections and took antibiotics (apparently antibiotics are an obesity trigger). I was a chubby kids, until I was on a strict diet eating nothing for years when I was practicing ballet, I was starving for years. Then during my first pregnancy I had gestational diabetes and became obese. Once I reached that point, each pregnancy made me gain weight, and diets worked but I was starving and regained after when eating to satisfy my hunger, because our body is made to make us keep the same weight. I don't have issues with binge eating and was not snacking all day. But lunch or dinner were two plates, I was eating more than my husband! And I do like chocolate but do not eat enough to gain weight in those proportions (nut checked). Now, years later after my first pregnancy, I start to finally understand that the battle against my genes will also be the battle for my youngest child, who, at the age of 8 years old also had antibiotics and gained weight suddenly for no reasons. My parents were slim and fed me with carbs, but my kids have a balanced diet at home. So my kid is not as big as I was at her age but I'm just worried she will follow my path and that's not a pleasant one...
Obesity runs into my father's family, all women have asthma and become obese during their first pregnancy....one of the strangest thing too is we develop also benign tumors once we become obese. One specialist told me it's also a sign of "genetic obesity" to have more than 8 tumors......right, at that stage I was not surprised any more...but I have to get those tumors removed because if kept too long it can be a problem....anyway...at some point obesity can lead to mental disease too, because living prejudice for years is not easy to manage and can be a factor of depression for sure. But for me it did start as a physical disease.

First see if there is anything medically wrong with your sleeve. My doctor says he can do an X-ray to see if anything isn't right.

I would guess it's your eating, not your sleeve, but it's worth it to get it checked out!

Oh, i would never judge because whether we want to admit it or not, we are all one step from being in your shoes. I think IMHO obesity is both physical and mental. Nearly EVERYONE in both sides of my family are obese. You cannot outrun your genes, but the surgery has helped me to be more successful in staying at a more normal weight. Mentally it is a struggle to make good choices, but it has helped me develop much better eating habits and if I don't choose good food, then that is on me and I don't deny it. I make crappy choices when I am stressed. So, I can only imagine how you all are choosing (or not) to comfort yourselves with food. I would be doing the same thing. That's why I said we are all only a step away. I agree with looking for a counselor, but you might have to try a few. People who have never struggled with their weight can be very judgmental and you certainly don't need that! My thoughts and prayers are with you! I hope you find some comfort. Take care, Melissa

Originally Posted by sraebaer

First see if there is anything medically wrong with your sleeve. My doctor says he can do an X-ray to see if anything isn't right.

I would guess it's your eating, not your sleeve, but it's worth it to get it checked out!

That is a good idea. Maybe the can do a plication where they tighten it up. He did that for me when I had my hernia surgery and it helped a lot.

Have you tried the 5 day pouch test to see if your pouch is still functioning with restriction? If your answer is no, it may not be the sleeve at all but the slider foods/drinks your consuming. I know the surgery is very drastic for our tummy the first 6-7 months after surgery and Dr. Verboonen from TJ can do revisions, but if your restrictive nature is there, you just need to buckle down and re-adjust your life again. Tough situation to be in but you can do it, shocking the carbs out of your body will be hard but necessary! God be with you.

No judgement here ever, from me anyway! You have been through a major trauma and that's how you dealt with it. We all make mistakes and it's ok, you are human and not one person here has any right to judge because if they were so perfect they wouldn't have needed this surgery in the first place. My heart bleeds for you because I know the day will come when I lose my Mom and I can't even imagine how I will ever deal with that. We are so close and speak at least 4 times a week, she is my best friend. I am so, so very sorry for your loss and truly hope every day gets easier for you. With that said you have taken the right step in reaching out for help and this is the place. I can't tell you how to handle this but you have some really good advice on here and how you chose to deal with it is completely up to you. I wish you the very best of luck and hope everything works out for you. Remember just take it one day at a time and one foot in front of the other and it will all fall into place. Good Luck!

Originally Posted by mrtumnus

yes there is a procedure called sleeve revision..you can get this in Mexico as well. No one is perfect and should not judge, but sometimes on here we have a few that seem to forget and I believe get caught up in their success after surgery--or have yet to have surgery but seem to "know it all". Just ignore these types The loss of a loved one, especially a profound experience as losing a parent, will take a toll on your mental state causing you to seek comfort, peace. Food seems to be a go to for many people. I wish you much success!

Isn't that the truth mrtumnus and I have been noticing that more and more on here that's why I stepped away for a while. Have a great day!

I'm so sorry for your loss. Life's stresses are hard. And they never cease. It's part of life -- especially in later life.

Life after WLS isn't a cakewalk, no matter how many benefits WLS provides. But navigating life's losses without attempting to sedate our pain with food is what we have to learn how to do to keep the good health WLS brought to us. In my case, I probably wouldn't have learned any new behaviors without the help of a good therapist whom I've been seeing since two months before WLS.

I was sleeved in August 2014 at age 68. Two months later my husband was diagnosed with cancer. Two months after that our dog died the day before our birthday. The following month our oldest son died of a stroke. Ten months later, my husband's dad died. Eight days later my mother died. Three months ago my husband's cancer returned and he's going through chemo once again. And this week our final pet, an 18-year-old cat, is dying of kidney disease.

I send you my best wishes for continuing recovery and peace. I know you can lose weight again. Do again what you once did so well -- go back to the WLS basics: Protein, protein first, lots of water, all your vitamins / supplements and meds, don't drink with meals, don't drink your calories -- and much more. You know the drill.

You can do this. You need good health. You deserve good health. You can enjoy good health and life again.

(Hugs)

I have not had my surgery yet, however I know the feeling of disappointment. My suggestion is stop and take tomorrow for what it is. Don't focus on what but perhaps the how so you can avoid the pitfalls. Each day is a new start and start fresh. Good luck to you

Oh Ann!!! Holy smokes!! I was always truly inspired by you, but the fact that you did what you did in spite of the trauma-well, I am in awe! Praying for smooth sailing for you and your family from now on!

Thank you, Melissa. We're hoping for better days, too.

I haven't responded with any great advice to your latest thread because all I can think of to offer are the basics.

I am also very respectful of the value of mindfully being present in the present and feeling our feels, as the kids say. In most ways, it is what it is. Pain and suffering are part of life ... as are joy, love, and gratitude.

Resisting pain and loss are pointless. They do come to us all. But as the Bible and other books of wisdom say, "This is the day the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. " Put another way, by Richard Alpert, "Be here now."

We're all in this together. No one is really alone. Thanks for your encouragement. And the same encouragement goes out to jfergie!

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You stopped before u got all the way baxck! That's a good thing. Google pouch reset there are 2 to 7 day plans and lots of folks swear by this to get you back on track with the basics from day one..protein, water, veg....

Originally Posted by Ann2

Thank you, Melissa. We're hoping for better days, too.

I haven't responded with any great advice to your latest thread because all I can think of to offer are the basics.

I am also very respectful of the value of mindfully being present in the present and feeling our feels, as the kids say. In most ways, it is what it is. Pain and suffering are part of life ... as are joy, love, and gratitude.

Resisting pain and loss are pointless. They do come to us all. But as the Bible and other books of wisdom say, "This is the day the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. " Put another way, by Richard Alpert, "Be here now."

We're all in this together. No one is really alone. Thanks for your encouragement. And the same encouragement goes out to jfergie!

The fact that you read it and thought of me makes all the difference! Thank you!

First of all, I always hope this forum is a "judgement -free " zone, and nobody here is perfect.
jfergie, I agree that counseling and going back to basics just to see if you can jump start your metabolism; might help. It never hurts to see the doc to see if anything medical is going on, and then proceed from there with the "physical" aspect, but counseling, support groups, etc. are always a helpful tool to add.
Ann, I am so very sorry about what's going on in your life, and know you'll carry on with the class and dignity you display here. It's funny how things happen all at once, and we all wonder "how we're going to make it through"; yet somehow we do. I am sending you all the positive thoughts and am very invested in living the philosophy you shared. "Let us rejoice and be glad in it." I have already outlived my parents and consider myself blessed to be where I am today and try not to take it for granted. Having the sleeve and being a normal weight for the first time in my life, is a blessing and privilege I try to never take for granted.

Hey, right there with you. I gained back just about the same % as you have in that same 5 yrs.
Honestly, if I were not so sick otherwise, I'd go with the bypass if it were that important to me... after all the sleeve was originally only the first step, the bypass was the ultimate weight loss surgery. Not sure if they will do it for you on insurance...but other than that I don't personally feel that just tightening your sleeve will help. You can accomplish almost the same thing by just water loading, drinking a full glass of water 15 min before you eat or whenever you want to eat. (this is for mature sleeves ONLY) but if its stress eating or a food addiction then the malabsorption will just be a necessity. But it's a big step.... wishing you well.

Personally I wouldn't do a resleeve - I know several people that are 3 and 4 years out that opted for the mini bypass.

First of all, I am so sorry about the loss of your mom.

237 is WAY better than 320! (Trying to think positive!!)

Have you lost all feeling of restriction? Can you sit down and eat a whole steak, big restaurant burger, pork chop, or chicken breast? I know I sure can't, and I'm almost at 3 years. My surgeon said the stomach won't stretch out again. It probably isn't your stomach, it's what you're eating. My suggestion is to go back to how you were told to eat after surgery, you know the protein first, then veggies, no drinking with meals, etc. And maybe get outside and walk, that's my stress reliever. Good luck, but don't forget how far you've come.